Mailing List SIMS@mail.stalker.com Message #11824
From: NetHead <nethead@pecandeluxe.com>
Subject: Mail error & its interpretation
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:14:09 -0500
To: SIMS List <SIMS@mail.stalker.com>
X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998
Well, here is yet another episode in the saga of our e-mail and its
"blockage".

I attempted to sent an e-mail to the isp which is hosting our european
subsidiary. Since they share the same mail exchanger, we have had similar
problems sending mail to them. I sent another test message to them and
got back this error:

-----begin error snippet-----

> Return-Path: <>

> Subject: Undeliverable mail: E-mail status

> From: MAILER-DAEMON@pecandeluxe.com

> To: doug_starkey@pecandeluxe.com

> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 08:33:25 -0500

> Message-Id: <AUTOS.0000032528-32682@pecandeluxe.com>

> X-Mailer: Stalker Internet Mail Server 1.8b9d14

> MIME-Version: 1.0

> Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;

> boundary="_=receipt=_=32682=_"

>

> Failed to deliver your message to csm@legend.co.uk:

> SMTP: Address rejected by host

> Host 'legend.co.uk' says:

> 554 <csm@legend.co.uk>: Recipient address rejected: Relay access denied

>

> Reporting-MTA: dns; pecandeluxe.com

>

> Final-Recipient: rfc822; csm@legend.co.uk

> Action: failed

> Status: 5.0.0

>

> Received: from [192.168.1.108] ([192.168.1.108] verified)

>   by pecandeluxe.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.8b9d14)

>   with SMTP id S.0000032528 for <csm@legend.co.uk>; Thu, 19 Sep 2002

> 16:36:27 -0500

> Subject: E-mail status

> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:36:24 -0500

> x-sender: doug_starkey@pop.pecandeluxe.com

> x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998

> From: Doug Starkey <doug_starkey@pecandeluxe.com>

> To: "Darren Spink" <csm@legend.co.uk>

> Mime-Version: 1.0

> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

>
-----end error snippet-----

Now, my interpretation of this is that Legend's mailserver rejected the
mail because it saw it as a relay. It DOES say, "Host 'legend.co.uk'
says"...

but here is the response I got from Legend (when forwarding this error
via a different account):
-----begin quote-----
From: csm@legend.co.uk
To: PecanDeluxeCandy@aol.com
Hi Doug,



An error from our servers would give a "553" not "554". The error seems
to

have  been generated by:



Reporting-MTA: dns; pecandeluxe.com



(MTA - mail transfer agent?)


-----end quote-----
Now, my reading of a "554" is that somewhere, a server thinks I'm
relaying. Presumably my mail server, right? But why would my mail server
think I'm relaying? I've gone over my configuration. I have all ips on my
network listed in the client-hosts. I have "Relay for Clients Only"
checked, I have "Verify Return-Path" checked, I do not use an RBL, but DO
have my own internal blacklist.

Is it possible this my isp is somehow detecting my e-mail as a "relay"
attempt and then blocking it?

Thanks again, all, for putting up with my mess.


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